I did some more writing; some of you are going to hate it because it conflicts with your world view but here it is. There will be some redundancies as i’ve combined two texts I’ve written and am still in process of editing it down, distilling it into a more concise and less repetitive text. I will point out that i am in constant dialog with Muslims from all over the world, those that speak english at least and that has been formative in my findings and opinions on these matters. I understand it is a touchy subject for many but i think we need to openly and freely discuss such issues.
Islam is all about control and domination of Muslims and anyone else unfortunate enough to be their geographic neighbor. Islam itself a form of slavery, a fact which Muslims themselves do not deny. They call themselves “Slaves of Allah” and the refer to Jesus as a ‘slave of Allah’. This stance accomplishes several things for them. They simultaneously insult Jews and Christians which they really enjoy doing as it makes them feel self righteous and superior and masks their underlying inferiority complex given that western culture, the secular democracies have far outstripped them in technology and innovation, and at the same time by doing so they declare their dominance of their version(s) of the Abrahamic religion over the others. It’s a form of self validation at the expense of others. That they do this has nothing to do with colonialism, they have been doing it since the 7th century during the Islamic expansion when THEY were the colonizers. The religion today is rife with historical revisionism and denialism; they will never criticize their own religion, they are literally not allowed to. Islam is coercive, repressive, oppressive, regressive, conservative AF and out of touch with modernity. While the west was having the civil rights movement, the women’s liberation movement, moving towards equal rights for ALL in the law in the 21st century, Islam has been solidly, belligerently stuck in a 7th century slaver mentality. Islamists are at war in more than 20 different countries right now on planet earth, that we can see with our own eyes and we can also see what their imams say about it and just as revealing is what they do NOT say.
We can SEE what Islam is doing; it is incubating and breeding and indoctrinating extremists who are programmed from an early age to kill, to murder, to rape and maim with glee. This is a well evidenced and demonstrable fact. Their strategy about what to do with the freedom loving secular democracies of the west is obvious also and they themselves admit to it and then do it. They imigrate and then set about outbreeding the liberal democrats to the point where they can out vote us and then once elected they go about eroding democracy and stiffling and/or eliminating human rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, a free press, women’s rights, minority rights, religious freedom and tolerance, the very things we fought, via mostly peaceful protest and civil disobedience, so long and so hard to gain and establish in the west. The situation is dire and tragic and horrible to consider. The coercive and corrosive, divisive power of Islam is pretty whack; they indoctrinate their youth to such a degree that they gladly give up their own rights and freedoms and lives for a completely non-existent entity they tend to refer to as ‘Allah’ and they are terrified not to because of all of the harsh reality of living under sharia law. And that coercive power is well exhibited and underlined by their treatment of ‘apostates’, that in addition to their stated intentions and goals regarding those who are not Muslim, the ‘infidels’ which includes most of us. Clearly they hold a special soft spot in their collective consciousness for Jews, who have long been persecuted, murdered, subjected to genocide by both Muslims and Christians over the centuries. We can clearly hear their genocidal intent towards the Jews in their rhetoric and see it in their actions Hamas et al, Oct 7th, 2023, and in the many historical genocides perpetrated by Islamic forces on Jewish communities over the centuries. Islam hates Christianity also, disdain and disrespect for any other religion other the Islam is built right into the Quran but it is Christians who have been the main target of the aggressions over the years (See the muslim expansion and Christian crusades for elaboration).
Christians have also been very violent and murderous/domineering through history, with their unholly crusades, the inquisitions, the rape, pillage and genocides of the Americas, the many sectarian conflicts costing millions of lives.
The Jews have mainly just kept to themselves and tried to survive all of this mayhem, persecuted and nearly annihilated by Muslims and Christians through the ages.
Boko Haram’s various atrocities in Nigeria etc also, ISIS and their capture and enslavement and forced conversion of thousands of Yazidi women, after they killed all of the Yazidi men and boy and elders. They say, “Islam is a religion of peace” while they DO something completely opposed to peace; they do war and other forms of violence and oppression, again and again all through history. Self righteous sanctimonious murderous insanely violent and destructive Jihads. It’s truly sick, a culturally endorsed collective psychopathy. They also make war and senseless destruction against Hindus and Buddhists, both the people and their historical and ‘sacred’ sites.
This is not ‘islamophobia’ speaking; I have personally helped and aided and protected many refugees and imigrants from all over the world over the years and am greatly influenced and inspired by the art, music, dance and architecture of many cultures. A phobia is an irrational fear; our concerns re Islam and grounded on historical analysis, many years observing and considering aspects of geopolitics, comparative religion, mythology and anthropology, the evolution of philosophies and political movements through the ages. Our concerns re the state of Islam today are completely and demonstrably rational concerns based upon observation and analysis of the words and actions of Islam. When Islam meets the west there is a larger ideological disconnect/war at play. They really seem to not ‘get’ freedom and the majority claim not to even WANT freedom; they like this ‘slave to Allah’ nonsense.
Add to that that all of these deities, YHWY, Jesus, Allah are completely fictional man made characters and narratives designed to control and manipulate the masses and congeal them into a coherent fighting force. They are all idiotic myths and given that the various scriptures of the Abrahamic religions are so holy they are all full of holes; they espouse an outmoded ‘morality’ such as how to discipline your slaves, imprison and beat you women, punish ‘infidels’ and ‘apostates’ and all exhibit major contradictions and inconsistencies in their written versions of histories and tell of obviously naive and erroneous cosmologies that contradict observable reality. There is no way that these texts the Quran, the Bible(s), the Torah, etc can possibly be the revealed word of a divine and omniscient being; it’s so foolish to believe that they are, given what we now know via the sciences of biology, genetics, geology, palaeontology, astronomy and cosmology all reveal the lie that is the unholy mess of Abrahamic religions in the world today.
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Praise Bob, sincerely, Captain Sardonicus the Improbable.
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Genocide of Jews by Islamic forces through history.
1. Conquest of Medina (627 CE): Muhammad’s forces attacked and expelled the Jewish tribes of Medina, resulting in the deaths of many Jews.
2. Massacre of the Banu Qurayza tribe (627 CE): Muhammad’s forces besieged and defeated the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza, leading to the execution of over 800 Jewish men and the enslavement of their women and children.
3. Pogroms of 1033-1034 in Fez, Morocco: Jewish communities were attacked, and many Jews were killed, forced to convert, or expelled.
4. Almohad persecution (1146-1248 CE): The Almohad Caliphate in North Africa and Spain forced Jews to convert to Islam, and many who refused were killed or expelled.
5. Ottoman massacres (14th-16th centuries CE): Jewish communities in the Ottoman Empire faced periodic massacres, forced conversions, and persecutions.
6. Farhud (1941 CE) in Baghdad, Iraq: A violent pogrom against Jews resulted in over 180 deaths and widespread destruction of Jewish property.
7. 1391 pogroms in Tunisia: Jewish communities were attacked, and many Jews were killed or forced to convert.
8. 1465 persecutions in Fez, Morocco: Jewish communities faced violence, forced conversions, and expulsions.
9. 1517 expulsion from Egypt: Jews were expelled from Egypt by the Ottoman Empire.
10. 1834 pogrom in Safed, Ottoman Palestine (now Israel): Jewish communities faced violence and destruction of property.
11. 1886 pogroms in Yemen: Jewish communities faced violence, forced conversions, and expulsions.
12. 1912-1913 pogroms in Shiraz, Iran: Jewish communities faced violence, forced conversions, and expulsions.
Here are some times when Christian populations were subjected to genocide by Muslims in the past.
1. The conquest of Syria (634-638 CE): Christian populations were massacred, forced to convert, or expelled.
2. The Battle of Heliopolis (640 CE): Egyptian Christians were killed or enslaved by the Rashidun Caliphate.
3. The Mongol conquest of Baghdad (1258 CE): Christians were massacred, and churches destroyed.
4. The Ottoman conquest of Constantinople (1453 CE): Christians were killed, enslaved, or forced to convert.
5. The Armenian Genocide (1915-1923 CE): Ottoman forces and Kurdish tribes killed an estimated 1.5 million Armenians, many of whom were Christian.
6. The Greek Genocide (1914-1923 CE): Ottoman forces and Turkish irregulars killed an estimated 350,000-750,000 Greeks, many of whom were Christian.
7. The Assyrian Genocide (1914-1920 CE): Ottoman forces and Kurdish tribes killed an estimated 250,000-300,000 Assyrian Christians.
8. The Lebanese Civil War (1975-1990 CE): Christian populations were targeted by Muslim militias.
9. The ISIS atrocities (2014-2019 CE): Christians in Iraq and Syria were subjected to massacres, forced conversions, and enslavement.
10. Boko Haram, a terrorist organization, kidnapped approximately 276 schoolgirls from Chibok, Nigeria in 2014. The majority of the girls were Christian. The kidnapped girls were subjected to forced conversions to Islam, physical and emotional abuse, and forced marriages to Boko Haram fighters. Many were also forced into sexual slavery and used as human shields.
Here are some times when Jews were responsible for the genocide of either Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, or Hindus in history.
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Here’s a list of historical Jewish sites destroyed or damaged by Islamic forces from the 7th century to present:
1. Temple Mount (Jerusalem, 638 CE): The Second Temple was destroyed by the Rashidun Caliphate.
2. Solomon’s Temple (Jerusalem, 638 CE): Also destroyed by the Rashidun Caliphate.
3. Ezra’s Tomb (Basra, Iraq, 941 CE): Destroyed by the Qarmatians, a Shia Islamic sect.
4. Tomb of Esther and Mordechai (Hamadan, Iran, 12th century): Damaged by the Ghaznavid Empire.
5. Jewish Quarter (Fez, Morocco, 1033 CE): Destroyed by the Berber dynasty.
6. Synagogue of the Prophet Samuel (Mazar-e Sharif, Afghanistan, 12th century): Converted into a mosque by the Ghurid dynasty.
7. Jewish Cemetery (Tunis, Tunisia, 1231 CE): Desecrated by the Almohad Caliphate.
8. Great Synagogue (Cairo, Egypt, 1010 CE): Destroyed by the Fatimid Caliphate.
9. Tomb of Rabbi Abraham ben David (Posquières, France, 1160 CE): Vandalized by Almohad invaders.
10. Jewish Quarter (Grenada, Spain, 1066 CE): Destroyed by the Almoravid dynasty.
11. Hurva Synagogue (Jerusalem, 1720 CE): Destroyed by the Ottoman Empire.
12. Tomb of Rabbi Nachman (Uman, Ukraine, 1929 CE): Vandalized by Arab rioters.
13. Jewish Quarter (Hebron, 1929 CE): Destroyed during the Hebron massacre.
14. Great Synagogue (Aleppo, Syria, 1947 CE): Torched by Arab rioters.
15. Jewish sites in Iraq (1941 CE): Destroyed during the Farhud pogrom.
Here’s a list of some significant Christian sites destroyed or damaged by Islamic forces since the 7th century
1. St. John’s Basilica (Ephesus, Turkey) – destroyed by the Umayyad Caliphate in 654
2. Church of the Nativity (Bethlehem, Palestine) – damaged during the Umayyad Caliphate in 639
3. Hagia Sophia (Constantinople, Byzantine Empire) – converted into a mosque by the Ottoman Empire in 1453
4. Monastery of St. Catherine (Sinai, Egypt) – attacked and damaged by the Umayyad Caliphate in 634
5. Church of the Holy Apostles (Constantinople, Byzantine Empire) – destroyed by the Ottoman Empire in 1461
6. St. Mark’s Basilica (Alexandria, Egypt) – destroyed by the Fatimid Caliphate in 1010
7. Cathedral of St. James (Jerusalem, Palestine) – destroyed by the Fatimid Caliphate in 1010
8. Church of the Holy Sepulchre (Jerusalem, Palestine) – damaged and partially destroyed by the Fatimid Caliphate in 1009
9. Monastery of the Holy Cross (Jerusalem, Palestine) – destroyed by the Umayyad Caliphate in 614
10. St. George’s Church (Lydda, Palestine) – destroyed by the Umayyad Caliphate in 639
Here is a list of Buddhist sites destroyed or defaced by Islamic forces:
1. Nalanda University (Bihar, India): Destroyed by Bakhtiyar Khalji in 1204 CE
2. Vikramashila University (Bihar, India): Destroyed by Bakhtiyar Khalji in 1204 CE
3. Odantapuri University (Bihar, India): Destroyed by Bakhtiyar Khalji in 1204 CE
4. Somapura Mahavihara (Paharpur, Bangladesh): Destroyed by Bakhtiyar Khalji in 1204 CE
5. Dharmapuri Mahavihara (Dharmapuri, India): Destroyed by the Delhi Sultanate in the 14th century
6. Sompur Mahavihara (Animeshlocana, Bangladesh): Destroyed by the Delhi Sultanate in the 14th century
7. Bamiyan Buddhas (Bamiyan, Afghanistan): Destroyed by the Taliban in 2001
8. Mes Aynak (Logar Province, Afghanistan): Destroyed by the Taliban in 2001
9. Ghazni Buddhist site (Ghazni Province, Afghanistan): Destroyed by the Taliban in 2001
10. Hadda Buddhist site (Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan): Destroyed by the Taliban in 2001
11. Jalalabad Buddhist site (Nangarhar Province, Afghanistan): Destroyed by the Taliban in 2001
12. Nagarjunakonda (Andhra Pradesh, India): Destroyed by the Delhi Sultanate in the 14th century
13. Amaravati (Andhra Pradesh, India): Destroyed by the Delhi Sultanate in the 14th century
14. Nagarjunakonda (Andhra Pradesh, India): Destroyed by the Delhi Sultanate in the 14th century
15. Sarnath (Uttar Pradesh, India): Destroyed by the Delhi Sultanate in the 12th century
Here’s a list of 10 Hindu sites destroyed or damaged by Muslim invaders and rulers since the 7th century:
1. Somnath Temple (Gujarat, 1026 CE): Destroyed by Mahmud of Ghazni.
2. Vishnu Temple (Mathura, 1018 CE): Destroyed by Mahmud of Ghazni.
3. Kashi Vishwanath Temple (Varanasi, 1194 CE): Destroyed by Muhammad of Ghor.
4. Lingaraj Temple (Bhubaneswar, 13th century CE): Damaged by Muslim invaders.
5. Jagannath Temple (Puri, 14th century CE): Damaged by Muslim invaders.
6. Martand Sun Temple (Kashmir, 8th century CE): Destroyed by Sikandar Butshikan.
7. Debal Temple (Sindh, 725 CE): Destroyed by Muhammad bin Qasim.
8. Nalanda University (Bihar, 12th century CE): Destroyed by Bakhtiyar Khalji.
9. Mahakal Temple (Ujjain, 13th century CE): Damaged by Iltutmish.
10. Chidambaram Temple (Tamil Nadu, 14th century CE): Damaged by Malik Kafur.
*note that this list is not exhaustive, and there were many other Hindu sites destroyed or damaged during this period.
So there is a bit of historical context that hopefully will help you to understand this issue in it’s fuller context and also a bigger picture than just Israel and the middle east.
Important to note that Israel is not alone, though that is clear from the lists I will write it plainly. There is a larger ideolgical war going on, i.e. Islam vs the western secular democracies, Islam vs. modern civil rights and freedoms, Islam vs. equal rights for ALL in the law. That is the bigger picture. Many of us in the west realize this and recognize that Israel is caught up tragically as a key pawn in the game. We in the west will not fail Israel in standing up for that which is truth, that which just, and right. We want a win/win, peace and prosperity and safety and security for ALL, and that does include Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Cargo Cultists, etc and we recognize that the main victims of Islam are, in fact, Muslims. They are in an ideological cage made from bars of fear, hate, and delusion and prejudice from an early age and it’s a hard one to break free from as at the core of Islam is a repressive, regressive, coercive ideology that murders apostates and ‘infidels’ and uses their so called holy books to justify it so they do not even realize how evil they are actually being, all these centuries. The Christians have been also, the inquisitions, the witch-hunts, and the rape, pillage and conquest of the ‘new world’, various sectarian conflicts (sectarian conflics also common in Islamic countries, regimes, theocracies) the holocaust also and that is noted and detestable, however, it is Islamists that are, today creating the most death and destruction and unrest, wars and terrorism currently at this time in history and for the past 70 years or so. To add to the tragedy of all of this war, death, murder, kidnapping, rape and torture, destruction including environmental damage read this that i wrote a few days ago. None of these gods are even evidenced to be REAL, it is all a made up fantasy/delusion fabricated by humans to assuage our fear of death and insignificance, lack of comfort with open ended questions and the desire of sociopathic megalomaniacal madmen to control and dominate others.
Has Islam been a religion of tolerance and peace? I don’t think so.
